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Driving Will Be Like Riding a Harley: Erika Debrah Reed on Self-Driving Cars and AI's Gift of Time

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Will you still drive when your car can drive itself? Erika Debrah Reed thinks you'll be allowed to, but you won't have to. She expects human driving to end up like riding a Harley: something people do for fun, not to get to work. She also thinks AI's real payoff is time, if companies and people use it with intention.

Erika began her career in civil engineering on highways and bridges, then moved into retail real estate after business school. Over 15 years she has gone from opening shopping centers to planning them as transportation hubs for self-driving cars, delivery robots, drones and electric planes. She tells Cody the truth she says retail won't admit: malls aren't dead.

Her book, The Gift of Time, makes the case that AI can hand hours back to us, from chores and email to time stuck in traffic. She's optimistic that companies will cut hours instead of cutting people, though she says she hasn't seen hours drop yet. Cody shares why he left government: his reward for programming was more programming. They talk about Jamie Dimon's 3.5-day workweek prediction, why Erika thinks some companies blaming layoffs on AI have other problems, the three ways people tend to spend reclaimed time, and why she doesn't want a small group in Silicon Valley owning all the data.

Then the road. Erika explains why she expects every car to go self-driving eventually and why fewer teens are getting licenses. Cody, who built an '83 El Camino with his grandfather and lives in rural Newfoundland, asks whether driver's licenses will disappear and floats autonomous RVs as homes. Erika closes with the AI assistant that texts her a daily plan for her household, and her advice: you are the author of your own life.

Chapters:

0:00 AI should cut your hours, not your job

2:17 The truth retail won't admit: malls aren't dead

4:29 From highway engineer to retail strategist

5:42 Why she wrote The Gift of Time

7:10 Why she's an AI optimist

8:28 AI's biggest gift: your time back

11:23 Will companies cut hours or keep the gains?

14:38 Companies blaming layoffs on AI

15:25 How to use AI with intention

18:57 The AI future to avoid: who owns the data

21:54 Will every car go self-driving?

26:09 Will driver's licenses disappear?

29:53 How she uses AI: a household assistant by text

31:29 Where to find Erika and final advice

Guest:

Erika Debrah Reed

Website: https://erikaintelligence.com

The Gift of Time: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1968668284

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikadreed/

Instagram: https://instagram.com/erikaintelligence

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Ollie, the household AI assistant Erika uses: https://ollie.ai

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This conversation shares experience and opinions. Predictions about self-driving cars, AI and work are the speakers' own. Correction: in the opening and again in the self-driving section, Erika says 63% of driver-age US teens aren't getting a license. Federal Highway Administration data for 2024 show about 60% of 18-year-olds and 69% of 19-year-olds hold one. The trend she describes is real: the share of 16- to 19-year-olds with a license has fallen since 2004. Contains explicit language.

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